Comments on: Thought Leaders and Business as Movement http://blog.symbian.org/2009/11/25/thought-leaders-and-business-as-movement/ Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:48:08 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Haydn http://blog.symbian.org/2009/11/25/thought-leaders-and-business-as-movement/#comment-5847 Haydn Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:33:00 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=3377#comment-5847 err. couple of comments back Stringer - did you check if it is indeed such a small, handful of businessmen study :-) but ona serious note. Isn't what you are saying contradicted by the inclusion of the Cooperative Bank? The Co-op has been derided for decades by the business press and the idea of cooperation was till getting a tough time from there up to the recession - yet the Co-op pioneered common ownership and it is now getting recognition again nearly 160 years after it started. That seems to me to be a really good reason to include it here on this blog. Symbian is in the common ownership and commons business and has to find a way to shine in and among all the prejudices ad reactions you are talking about. err. couple of comments back Stringer – did you check if it is indeed such a small, handful of businessmen study :-) but ona serious note.

Isn’t what you are saying contradicted by the inclusion of the Cooperative Bank?

The Co-op has been derided for decades by the business press and the idea of cooperation was till getting a tough time from there up to the recession – yet the Co-op pioneered common ownership and it is now getting recognition again nearly 160 years after it started. That seems to me to be a really good reason to include it here on this blog. Symbian is in the common ownership and commons business and has to find a way to shine in and among all the prejudices ad reactions you are talking about.

]]> By: Stringer bell http://blog.symbian.org/2009/11/25/thought-leaders-and-business-as-movement/#comment-5845 Stringer bell Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:26:08 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=3377#comment-5845 Outside of city, this sort of puff from "key opinion formers" are widely discredited. There are usually no metrics, just perception by a hand full of businessmen. It has been shown consistently that for example "good employer" or "thought leadership" will rated higher for a company simply if they have a more positive profile/shareprice in the media. As an example. If you asked a key opinion former if Apple had nice offices to work at, they would probably assume yes because of their perception of the luxury of Apple's products. C'mon. The phrase thought leadership should be enough to make you run a mile, let alone post it to this blog. Outside of city, this sort of puff from “key opinion formers” are widely discredited.
There are usually no metrics, just perception by a hand full of businessmen. It has been shown consistently that for example “good employer” or “thought leadership” will rated higher for a company simply if they have a more positive profile/shareprice in the media.
As an example. If you asked a key opinion former if Apple had nice offices to work at, they would probably assume yes because of their perception of the luxury of Apple’s products.

C’mon. The phrase thought leadership should be enough to make you run a mile, let alone post it to this blog.

]]> By: Haydn http://blog.symbian.org/2009/11/25/thought-leaders-and-business-as-movement/#comment-5826 Haydn Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:26:48 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=3377#comment-5826 The evidence is all drawn from a survey of Key opinion Leaders in the UK. They don't give a huge amount of detail on the method for soliciting those viewpoints. If you follow the TLG link above you can take a look at the summary The evidence is all drawn from a survey of Key opinion Leaders in the UK. They don’t give a huge amount of detail on the method for soliciting those viewpoints. If you follow the TLG link above you can take a look at the summary

]]> By: William Roberts http://blog.symbian.org/2009/11/25/thought-leaders-and-business-as-movement/#comment-5825 William Roberts Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:07:51 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=3377#comment-5825 Did TLG say what evidence they saw for the Co-op demonstrating thought leadership? It's presumably not just innovation, which is where Apple and Google score highly. Did TLG say what evidence they saw for the Co-op demonstrating thought leadership? It’s presumably not just innovation, which is where Apple and Google score highly.

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