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		<title>By: Symbian版AppStore「Symbian Horizon」、2009年10月にサービス開始 &#171; 突然消失するかもしれないブログ</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/16/scanning-the-horizon/#comment-2540</link>
		<dc:creator>Symbian版AppStore「Symbian Horizon」、2009年10月にサービス開始 &#171; 突然消失するかもしれないブログ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 「小規模でスタートし、最初は限られた数のアプリのみを扱う」とSymbianのウェブページには記されている。しかし、同団体はブログ投稿で、「できる限り多くのアプリへの対応に向けてこのプログラムを拡大できるように、この作業を自動化するシステムを開発すること」が目標であると述べている。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 「小規模でスタートし、最初は限られた数のアプリのみを扱う」とSymbianのウェブページには記されている。しかし、同団体はブログ投稿で、「できる限り多くのアプリへの対応に向けてこのプログラムを拡大できるように、この作業を自動化するシステムを開発すること」が目標であると述べている。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Windows Phone World Podcast 25 &#171; Joozzt RSS feeds</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/16/scanning-the-horizon/#comment-2535</link>
		<dc:creator>Windows Phone World Podcast 25 &#171; Joozzt RSS feeds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In this podcast we cover the following: Toshiba TG01 comes with a virus!    Samsung Omnia 2 manual out    Marketplace coming to WM 6.1!!!    Verizon removed app store    HTC Bluetooth vulnerability    Toshiba gets OTA to WM 6.5?    HTC finally gets 3.5mm headphone jack    Apple patent with saving the settings in the headphones    Apple block PalmPre from connection to iTunes    TG01 speed of PIE    new WM Office &#8211; exited?      LG WinMo App store    LG BL4 Chocolate Nokia, Sony Ericsson results and my pretty bad call       Symbian Horizon app repository [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In this podcast we cover the following: Toshiba TG01 comes with a virus!    Samsung Omnia 2 manual out    Marketplace coming to WM 6.1!!!    Verizon removed app store    HTC Bluetooth vulnerability    Toshiba gets OTA to WM 6.5?    HTC finally gets 3.5mm headphone jack    Apple patent with saving the settings in the headphones    Apple block PalmPre from connection to iTunes    TG01 speed of PIE    new WM Office &#8211; exited?      LG WinMo App store    LG BL4 Chocolate Nokia, Sony Ericsson results and my pretty bad call       Symbian Horizon app repository [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Windows Phone World Podcast 25</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/16/scanning-the-horizon/#comment-2534</link>
		<dc:creator>Windows Phone World Podcast 25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] App store    LG BL4 Chocolate Nokia, Sony Ericsson results and my pretty bad call       Symbian Horizon app repository &#160;  AudioPlayer.embed(&quot;pod_audio_1&quot;, {soundFile: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vipin</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/16/scanning-the-horizon/#comment-2523</link>
		<dc:creator>Vipin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ovi store failed to protect developer&#039;s app. Any paid App on Ovi can be hacked in few minutes and can be floated on torrents/shareware for free. Why should devloper use Ovi. Their own protection mechanism is much stronger than Ovi.
For last 2 months we developers only hear tat ovi team is working on that (and I believe so) but until they come up with a solution no go to Ovi for publishing app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ovi store failed to protect developer&#8217;s app. Any paid App on Ovi can be hacked in few minutes and can be floated on torrents/shareware for free. Why should devloper use Ovi. Their own protection mechanism is much stronger than Ovi.<br />
For last 2 months we developers only hear tat ovi team is working on that (and I believe so) but until they come up with a solution no go to Ovi for publishing app.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/16/scanning-the-horizon/#comment-2521</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a comment from an end user and not a developer..

I have a Samsung i8910. It is a great device and the hardware is fantastic. The symbian OS 5th edition is great and far better than my previous winMo phone. 

I have recenlty been playing with an Iod Touch and have used the app store to download various things. To put it mildy, Apple&#039;s Apps store is brilliant. Its fast and easy to use. The apps all take advantage of the hardware (easier as it is a single platform) and some of them are fantastic. 

While there are some great apps out there on sites such as Ovi and the beta version of Samsungs app store (while its a start its full of over priced and outdated software) there are none that really take advantage of the powerful hardware currently available.

Apps for the iPhone are advertised on lots of major sites (Sky, BBC etc) and while Symbian versions are available - the wide variety of handsets etc inevitably will slow progress down.

I welcome the development of a one stop shop for devs etc as the one thing Symbian is missing is a good app store..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a comment from an end user and not a developer..</p>
<p>I have a Samsung i8910. It is a great device and the hardware is fantastic. The symbian OS 5th edition is great and far better than my previous winMo phone. </p>
<p>I have recenlty been playing with an Iod Touch and have used the app store to download various things. To put it mildy, Apple&#8217;s Apps store is brilliant. Its fast and easy to use. The apps all take advantage of the hardware (easier as it is a single platform) and some of them are fantastic. </p>
<p>While there are some great apps out there on sites such as Ovi and the beta version of Samsungs app store (while its a start its full of over priced and outdated software) there are none that really take advantage of the powerful hardware currently available.</p>
<p>Apps for the iPhone are advertised on lots of major sites (Sky, BBC etc) and while Symbian versions are available &#8211; the wide variety of handsets etc inevitably will slow progress down.</p>
<p>I welcome the development of a one stop shop for devs etc as the one thing Symbian is missing is a good app store..</p>
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		<title>By: David Wood</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/16/scanning-the-horizon/#comment-2520</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter,

&lt;blockquote&gt;It would appear those involved in designing these mobile platforms &lt;b&gt;want&lt;/b&gt; it to be as complicated as possible to design and release applications, as if it would be a terrible thing if anyone could simply create content and give it to the people to use without complication or worry. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let&#039;s face facts.  The reality is that the value chain (including network operators) is already imposing a range of checks and tollgates before certain kinds of applications and content can be distributed.  One response to this reality is to campaign for all such checks and tollgates to be removed.  Personally I think that&#039;s completely infeasible: bad applications and content can do damage to devices, networks, and users&#039; bills.  Some kinds of checks are, therefore, inevitable.

However, the reason for Horizon is that Symbian (working in partnership with community members) will assist developers to handle the checks and tollgates as smoothly and as quickly as possible.

&lt;blockquote&gt;So, instead of just letting developers create an application and release it for anyone in the world to use, at their own price and on their own terms, Symbian is creating a whole new middle-man to make it more difficult to get their product to the end user.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, the point of the &quot;new middle-man&quot; (as you call it) is to make is &lt;b&gt;more easy&lt;/b&gt; for developers to get their product to the end user.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Your developer base would increase 100x if it didn’t cost hundreds of dollars to allow one application to be created...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agreed, we must drive as much cost as possible out of the development process.  The wider the range of applications that can be developed without any cost whatsoever, the better!

&lt;blockquote&gt;...or perhaps the incredible idea of operating systems which were compatible with previous versions of applications.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agreed, the incompatibilities between the API sets on different handsets cause developers major problems.  That&#039;s why Symbian is aggressively seeking better compatibility between handsets.  (But that&#039;s not to say that handsets will always be compatible.  It&#039;s just to say that compatibility breaks need better monitoring and review.)

// David W.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter,</p>
<blockquote><p>It would appear those involved in designing these mobile platforms <b>want</b> it to be as complicated as possible to design and release applications, as if it would be a terrible thing if anyone could simply create content and give it to the people to use without complication or worry. </p></blockquote>
<p>Let&#8217;s face facts.  The reality is that the value chain (including network operators) is already imposing a range of checks and tollgates before certain kinds of applications and content can be distributed.  One response to this reality is to campaign for all such checks and tollgates to be removed.  Personally I think that&#8217;s completely infeasible: bad applications and content can do damage to devices, networks, and users&#8217; bills.  Some kinds of checks are, therefore, inevitable.</p>
<p>However, the reason for Horizon is that Symbian (working in partnership with community members) will assist developers to handle the checks and tollgates as smoothly and as quickly as possible.</p>
<blockquote><p>So, instead of just letting developers create an application and release it for anyone in the world to use, at their own price and on their own terms, Symbian is creating a whole new middle-man to make it more difficult to get their product to the end user.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, the point of the &#8220;new middle-man&#8221; (as you call it) is to make is <b>more easy</b> for developers to get their product to the end user.</p>
<blockquote><p>Your developer base would increase 100x if it didn’t cost hundreds of dollars to allow one application to be created&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed, we must drive as much cost as possible out of the development process.  The wider the range of applications that can be developed without any cost whatsoever, the better!</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;or perhaps the incredible idea of operating systems which were compatible with previous versions of applications.</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed, the incompatibilities between the API sets on different handsets cause developers major problems.  That&#8217;s why Symbian is aggressively seeking better compatibility between handsets.  (But that&#8217;s not to say that handsets will always be compatible.  It&#8217;s just to say that compatibility breaks need better monitoring and review.)</p>
<p>// David W.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/16/scanning-the-horizon/#comment-2517</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, instead of just letting developers create an application and release it for anyone in the world to use, at their own price and on their own terms, Symbian is creating a whole new middle-man to make it more difficult to get their product to the end user.

Your developer base would increase 100x if it didn&#039;t cost hundreds of dollars to allow one application to be created, or perhaps the incredible idea of operating systems which were compatible with previous versions of applications.

It would appear those involved in designing these mobile platforms *want* it to be as complicated as possible to design and release applications, as if it would be a terrible thing if anyone could simply create content and give it to the people to use without complication or worry. Has no one learned from Microsoft&#039;s successes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, instead of just letting developers create an application and release it for anyone in the world to use, at their own price and on their own terms, Symbian is creating a whole new middle-man to make it more difficult to get their product to the end user.</p>
<p>Your developer base would increase 100x if it didn&#8217;t cost hundreds of dollars to allow one application to be created, or perhaps the incredible idea of operating systems which were compatible with previous versions of applications.</p>
<p>It would appear those involved in designing these mobile platforms *want* it to be as complicated as possible to design and release applications, as if it would be a terrible thing if anyone could simply create content and give it to the people to use without complication or worry. Has no one learned from Microsoft&#8217;s successes?</p>
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		<title>By: bd</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/16/scanning-the-horizon/#comment-2509</link>
		<dc:creator>bd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s important to understand before coming on here and criticizing that Symbian is a platform for the creation of mobile operating systems, not a mobile operating system in itself (at least at the moment). Any criticisms you might have are likely due to poor design practice by the OEM. Symbian can do any and all of the things you mentioned, but it&#039;s up to the phone manufacturer to make it happen on the device. For example, in the Nokia 5800 (and should be for the N95 as well), the phone internet stats are shown (Signal, Sent, Recieved etc.). Also, your comments on &#039;no error messages&#039; are a bit strange. I see them on my phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s important to understand before coming on here and criticizing that Symbian is a platform for the creation of mobile operating systems, not a mobile operating system in itself (at least at the moment). Any criticisms you might have are likely due to poor design practice by the OEM. Symbian can do any and all of the things you mentioned, but it&#8217;s up to the phone manufacturer to make it happen on the device. For example, in the Nokia 5800 (and should be for the N95 as well), the phone internet stats are shown (Signal, Sent, Recieved etc.). Also, your comments on &#8216;no error messages&#8217; are a bit strange. I see them on my phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Unknown</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/16/scanning-the-horizon/#comment-2504</link>
		<dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worst operating system. Why?

- No notifications or error messages when an error occurs.
- 40% success rate for connecting towards PC Phone Suites.
- Settings are all over the place, are not organized into 1 category.
- Phone internet and WLAN interruptions, no notification message about this.
- Phone internet does not display on Connection Manager and is not logged.
-  File manager is useless if you do not have a mouse attached to your phone. File manager should be made less complicated.


I use: Sony Ericcson P1i (Operating System: Symbian)
Previous: Nokia N95 ( Operating System: Symbian)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worst operating system. Why?</p>
<p>- No notifications or error messages when an error occurs.<br />
- 40% success rate for connecting towards PC Phone Suites.<br />
- Settings are all over the place, are not organized into 1 category.<br />
- Phone internet and WLAN interruptions, no notification message about this.<br />
- Phone internet does not display on Connection Manager and is not logged.<br />
-  File manager is useless if you do not have a mouse attached to your phone. File manager should be made less complicated.</p>
<p>I use: Sony Ericcson P1i (Operating System: Symbian)<br />
Previous: Nokia N95 ( Operating System: Symbian)</p>
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		<title>By: Bide Cui</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/16/scanning-the-horizon/#comment-2496</link>
		<dc:creator>Bide Cui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a developer, but i think you should use your energy and time on redesigning your Symbian OS and make the developing tool more friendly to use. is like a artist need a good set of tools that&#039;s a total pleasure to use, so people have hope and WANT to make software for you!

 I have so little hope for Symbian in today&#039;s Software war, it&#039;s so last century. not LG, Samsung is all doing way better, You guys need to change the way to games, and fire the those who is not will to change and standing in the way. 

I think Nokia these days have lost the lead in Hardware and software design. even your Symbian.org website design is bad, the font you design team used for the website makes me think that Symbian system looks really cheap and more like a joke. it&#039;s time to get serious! Also If you can, you need to redesign Nokia.com too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a developer, but i think you should use your energy and time on redesigning your Symbian OS and make the developing tool more friendly to use. is like a artist need a good set of tools that&#8217;s a total pleasure to use, so people have hope and WANT to make software for you!</p>
<p> I have so little hope for Symbian in today&#8217;s Software war, it&#8217;s so last century. not LG, Samsung is all doing way better, You guys need to change the way to games, and fire the those who is not will to change and standing in the way. </p>
<p>I think Nokia these days have lost the lead in Hardware and software design. even your Symbian.org website design is bad, the font you design team used for the website makes me think that Symbian system looks really cheap and more like a joke. it&#8217;s time to get serious! Also If you can, you need to redesign Nokia.com too.</p>
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