Comments on: GIMP: Great open source UI example http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/13/gimp-great-open-source-ui-example/ Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:46:18 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Scott Weiss http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/13/gimp-great-open-source-ui-example/#comment-2603 Scott Weiss Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:39:15 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=1464#comment-2603 Thanks for your suggestion! For now, the Brainstorm is just that--a place to share cool and fun ideas. The next steps are coming: the UI Council is convening a workshop in a few weeks to go through the Brainstorms and select several for voting. Voting will occur on ideas.symbian.org, which is now open to all! I'll post a blog entry here and a tweet on the Symbian Twitter account once Brainstorms turn into Ideas. Thanks for your suggestion! For now, the Brainstorm is just that–a place to share cool and fun ideas. The next steps are coming: the UI Council is convening a workshop in a few weeks to go through the Brainstorms and select several for voting. Voting will occur on ideas.symbian.org, which is now open to all! I’ll post a blog entry here and a tweet on the Symbian Twitter account once Brainstorms turn into Ideas.

]]> By: Trufanov http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/13/gimp-great-open-source-ui-example/#comment-2598 Trufanov Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:58:31 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=1464#comment-2598 Hi, About that brainstorm blog: i think its need some voting mechanism. I dont want to post comments there, i want just make some clicks to express my consent with some posts. I think that will be usefull and allow determine most required improvements along od all suggested. Hi,
About that brainstorm blog: i think its need some voting mechanism. I dont want to post comments there, i want just make some clicks to express my consent with some posts. I think that will be usefull and allow determine most required improvements along od all suggested.

]]> By: tony http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/13/gimp-great-open-source-ui-example/#comment-2532 tony Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:04:12 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=1464#comment-2532 @Scott - Regarding the OS being agnostic wrt a particular touch tech, sure - abstraction is what the OS is for :) It's kindof interesting, though, down in the nitty-gritty: resistive won't do multitouch (AFAIK), so the zoom-in/out with thumb and forefinger needs to be considered carefully in an OS if resistive is to be supported well. I mention another tech, but, again, to support it elegantly would require some awareness of it's limitations. Disclosure: I was involved with developing the touch tech I mention above. @Scott – Regarding the OS being agnostic wrt a particular touch tech, sure – abstraction is what the OS is for :) It’s kindof interesting, though, down in the nitty-gritty: resistive won’t do multitouch (AFAIK), so the zoom-in/out with thumb and forefinger needs to be considered carefully in an OS if resistive is to be supported well. I mention another tech, but, again, to support it elegantly would require some awareness of it’s limitations. Disclosure: I was involved with developing the touch tech I mention above.

]]> By: Scott Weiss http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/13/gimp-great-open-source-ui-example/#comment-2510 Scott Weiss Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:59:04 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=1464#comment-2510 @Anjani: Symbian's pipeline is available here: http://developer.symbian.org/wiki/index.php/Proposals_pipeline Symbian's roadmap is available here: http://developer.symbian.org/main/source/Symbian%20Foundation%20platform%20plan%20090309.pdf Compatibility is planned through S^3, but there is a code break planned for S^4. The platform is moving forward, and every once in a while, we need to make a clean break in order to realise great progress. @tony: Symbian is technology-agnostic with regard to resistive vs. capacitive vs. other. Manufacturers can implement whichever they feel is best to meet their business objectives. Thanks again for all the great comments! @Anjani: Symbian’s pipeline is available here: http://developer.symbian.org/wiki/index.php/Proposals_pipeline

Symbian’s roadmap is available here: http://developer.symbian.org/main/source/Symbian%20Foundation%20platform%20plan%20090309.pdf

Compatibility is planned through S^3, but there is a code break planned for S^4. The platform is moving forward, and every once in a while, we need to make a clean break in order to realise great progress.

@tony: Symbian is technology-agnostic with regard to resistive vs. capacitive vs. other. Manufacturers can implement whichever they feel is best to meet their business objectives.

Thanks again for all the great comments!

]]> By: Anjani Kumar Verma http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/13/gimp-great-open-source-ui-example/#comment-2505 Anjani Kumar Verma Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:22:57 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=1464#comment-2505 does Symbian foundation UI is replacing the S60 UI only or Are we talking about this new UI taking advantage of Symbian SMP for multicore platform and a advance touch interface. Should we expect major changes in the way applications were written for s60? what about the compatibility of applications already written for s60 with new UI? Thanks. does Symbian foundation UI is replacing the S60 UI only or Are we talking about this new UI taking advantage of Symbian SMP for multicore platform and a advance touch interface. Should we expect major changes in the way applications were written for s60? what about the compatibility of applications already written for s60 with new UI? Thanks.

]]> By: Kops http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/13/gimp-great-open-source-ui-example/#comment-2422 Kops Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:06:18 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=1464#comment-2422 "Don’t you guys think that’s a big let down, especially for Nokia who don’t even have an alternative in the near-term?" Oh there sure is. Google trolltech, Symbian, and Maemo all comes much clearer. First Maemo 5 device codenamed Rover("N900")(you can find it's specs in web if you search) will come probally in Nokia World September 1-2, next one early 2010 and Harmattan should be out first half of next year. Nokia is moving to linux direction and that's great imo at least before Symbian Foundation gets to Symbian^4. Thought i still do like Symbian so i hope they suprise me with Symbian^2 or lets say with Symbian^3. “Don’t you guys think that’s a big let down, especially for Nokia who don’t even have an alternative in the near-term?”
Oh there sure is. Google trolltech, Symbian, and Maemo all comes much clearer.

First Maemo 5 device codenamed Rover(“N900″)(you can find it’s specs in web if you search) will come probally in Nokia World September 1-2, next one early 2010 and Harmattan should be out first half of next year.
Nokia is moving to linux direction and that’s great imo at least before Symbian Foundation gets to Symbian^4. Thought i still do like Symbian so i hope they suprise me with Symbian^2 or lets say with Symbian^3.

]]> By: crux http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/13/gimp-great-open-source-ui-example/#comment-2421 crux Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:53:56 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=1464#comment-2421 I urge Symbian Foundation to do a case study on Palm. I am sure Symbian will prevail eventually but not without losing some market share to new rivals. Palm hit penalty kick in injury time. Time for Symbian to do the same and surprise the market. We consumers want you to succeed. Nobody wants you to lose because competition is always good and welcome. It fosters innovation whether it is open or closed source. I urge Symbian Foundation to do a case study on Palm. I am sure Symbian will prevail eventually but not without losing some market share to new rivals.

Palm hit penalty kick in injury time. Time for Symbian to do the same and surprise the market.

We consumers want you to succeed. Nobody wants you to lose because competition is always good and welcome. It fosters innovation whether it is open or closed source.

]]> By: tony http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/13/gimp-great-open-source-ui-example/#comment-2419 tony Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:26:23 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=1464#comment-2419 In addition to capacitive and resistive touch technologies, there is Acoustic Pulse Recognition, which requires a lower touch threshold than resistive but is much cheaper than capacitive (which, I understand, takes a significant proportion of the bill of materials). In addition to capacitive and resistive touch technologies, there is Acoustic Pulse Recognition, which requires a lower touch threshold than resistive but is much cheaper than capacitive (which, I understand, takes a significant proportion of the bill of materials).

]]> By: Scott Weiss http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/13/gimp-great-open-source-ui-example/#comment-2415 Scott Weiss Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:16:10 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=1464#comment-2415 The important and exciting thing is that Symbian has a roadmap for innovation and improvement to the UI. We have some internal ideas in store too... Also, look at Palm. They had a fantastic platform that was popular for a while and whose popularity slowed while they were hard at work on an innovative new OS and UI. We are not in a game of catch-up with Apple, Google, and Android. It's more like a game of leap-frog. :) The important and exciting thing is that Symbian has a roadmap for innovation and improvement to the UI. We have some internal ideas in store too…

Also, look at Palm. They had a fantastic platform that was popular for a while and whose popularity slowed while they were hard at work on an innovative new OS and UI.

We are not in a game of catch-up with Apple, Google, and Android. It’s more like a game of leap-frog. :)

]]> By: David Wood http://blog.symbian.org/2009/07/13/gimp-great-open-source-ui-example/#comment-2414 David Wood Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:12:26 +0000 http://blog.symbian.org/?p=1464#comment-2414 Hang on: I didn't say that Symbian is "behind the competition". I said that the level of platform support for full-blown touch solutions in our S^3 platform release will be less that the contents of our S^4 release. I assume that similar statements will apply for (eg) the Apple iPhone releases. The contents of the iPhone v3 platform will be less (in some aspects) than the contents of the iPhone v4 platform, etc. However, what's different with Symbian is that we talk openly about the contents of future platforms, well before the contents have been finalised. // David W. Hang on: I didn’t say that Symbian is “behind the competition”. I said that the level of platform support for full-blown touch solutions in our S^3 platform release will be less that the contents of our S^4 release.

I assume that similar statements will apply for (eg) the Apple iPhone releases. The contents of the iPhone v3 platform will be less (in some aspects) than the contents of the iPhone v4 platform, etc. However, what’s different with Symbian is that we talk openly about the contents of future platforms, well before the contents have been finalised.

// David W.

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