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		<title>By: Tyson Key</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/04/06/collaboration-at-the-heart/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyson Key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks David. I look forward to seeing what appears then...

/me stares at the clock and taps it, to make sure that it&#039;s still working ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks David. I look forward to seeing what appears then&#8230;</p>
<p>/me stares at the clock and taps it, to make sure that it&#8217;s still working <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Wood</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/04/06/collaboration-at-the-heart/#comment-912</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tyson,

&gt;&lt;i&gt;any chance that we’ll see some “core” header files released as open source, for reference material, any time soon? .. I’m thinking of e32def.h, e32base.h and e32cons.h...&lt;/i&gt;

Header files like these will be part of SDKs (Software Development Kits - as used by application developers) and also part of PDKs (Platform Development Kits - as used by platform developers).  Both SDKs and PDKs are being released publicly.  People won&#039;t need to belong to a Symbian Foundation member company to dowlnload these kits.

The versions of these header files used in Symbian^2 will be publicly available for the first time, when a first release of the PDK is made.  I expect this will be in early May.

// David W.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tyson,</p>
<p>&gt;<i>any chance that we’ll see some “core” header files released as open source, for reference material, any time soon? .. I’m thinking of e32def.h, e32base.h and e32cons.h&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Header files like these will be part of SDKs (Software Development Kits &#8211; as used by application developers) and also part of PDKs (Platform Development Kits &#8211; as used by platform developers).  Both SDKs and PDKs are being released publicly.  People won&#8217;t need to belong to a Symbian Foundation member company to dowlnload these kits.</p>
<p>The versions of these header files used in Symbian^2 will be publicly available for the first time, when a first release of the PDK is made.  I expect this will be in early May.</p>
<p>// David W.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyson Key</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/04/06/collaboration-at-the-heart/#comment-861</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyson Key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, any chance that we&#039;ll see some &quot;core&quot; header files released as open source, for reference material, any time soon? (I&#039;m thinking of e32def.h, e32base.h and e32cons.h at the moment).

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, any chance that we&#8217;ll see some &#8220;core&#8221; header files released as open source, for reference material, any time soon? (I&#8217;m thinking of e32def.h, e32base.h and e32cons.h at the moment).</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyson Key</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/04/06/collaboration-at-the-heart/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyson Key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: The Friars House artwork. Does anyone have some snaps of it, out of curiosity? I&#039;d be interested to see what was so controversial about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: The Friars House artwork. Does anyone have some snaps of it, out of curiosity? I&#8217;d be interested to see what was so controversial about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/04/06/collaboration-at-the-heart/#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the new logo (though not sure of using the new font everywhere).. its simple and non-techy, which is good for a change. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the new logo (though not sure of using the new font everywhere).. its simple and non-techy, which is good for a change. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joel West</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/04/06/collaboration-at-the-heart/#comment-813</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Android logo is more polished than the Symbian logo. And I&#039;d hardly say that Apache, Gnome and Python have gone corporate just because they want a logo suitable for use in branding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Android logo is more polished than the Symbian logo. And I&#8217;d hardly say that Apache, Gnome and Python have gone corporate just because they want a logo suitable for use in branding.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Cragg</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/04/06/collaboration-at-the-heart/#comment-806</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Cragg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your blog post arrived just as I was preparing my own on much the same subject - I just had time to refer back:

http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/symbian-and-linux/

Hope your readers find it interesting!

Duncan Cragg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blog post arrived just as I was preparing my own on much the same subject &#8211; I just had time to refer back:</p>
<p><a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/symbian-and-linux/" rel="nofollow">http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/symbian-and-linux/</a></p>
<p>Hope your readers find it interesting!</p>
<p>Duncan Cragg</p>
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		<title>By: David Wood</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/04/06/collaboration-at-the-heart/#comment-795</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Edward,

&gt;&lt;i&gt;that must mean that we can send in logo suggestions?&lt;/i&gt;

Take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/symbianfoundation/sets/72157616422430716/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Symbian Foundation photostream of characters on Flickr&lt;/a&gt;.  If you&#039;d like to contribute some characters of your own, send us a pointer to them!

&gt;&lt;i&gt;I could do something…&lt;/i&gt;

Once we&#039;ve got our main sites into public beta, hopefully you&#039;ll see lots of other ways that you can collaborate too!

// David W.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Edward,</p>
<p>&gt;<i>that must mean that we can send in logo suggestions?</i></p>
<p>Take a look at <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/symbianfoundation/sets/72157616422430716/" rel="nofollow">the Symbian Foundation photostream of characters on Flickr</a>.  If you&#8217;d like to contribute some characters of your own, send us a pointer to them!</p>
<p>&gt;<i>I could do something…</i></p>
<p>Once we&#8217;ve got our main sites into public beta, hopefully you&#8217;ll see lots of other ways that you can collaborate too!</p>
<p>// David W.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/04/06/collaboration-at-the-heart/#comment-790</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t get it, the title says &#039;&#039;collaboration at the heart&#039;&#039; so that must mean that we can send in logo suggestions? I could do something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t get it, the title says &#8221;collaboration at the heart&#8221; so that must mean that we can send in logo suggestions? I could do something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Wood</title>
		<link>http://blog.symbian.org/2009/04/06/collaboration-at-the-heart/#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi g,

&gt;&lt;i&gt;Choosing an obscure license over the already established ones doesn’t encourage developers.&lt;/i&gt;

Agreed - but the Eclipse Public Licence isn&#039;t obscure.  The OSI (Open Source Initiative) lists the EPL as &lt;a href=&quot;http://opensource.org/licenses/category&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one of just nine licences &quot;that are popular and widely used or with strong communities&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.

&gt;&lt;i&gt;If you want social action, it needs to be deserved. And to deserve that, you have to cater to the community.&lt;/i&gt;

Agreed!

&gt;&lt;i&gt;This website and the artwork is nice and it’s obviously a good start, but it doesn’t tell me where to get the code and how to get hacking.&lt;/i&gt;

Sorry, the particular website which answers these questions is currently in internal beta.  However, as soon as possible, we&#039;re going to convert it to a public beta.

&gt;&lt;i&gt;Where’s the git repo?&lt;/i&gt;

We decided in the end to use Mercurial rather than Git (though it was a close-run thing).

// David W.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi g,</p>
<p>&gt;<i>Choosing an obscure license over the already established ones doesn’t encourage developers.</i></p>
<p>Agreed &#8211; but the Eclipse Public Licence isn&#8217;t obscure.  The OSI (Open Source Initiative) lists the EPL as <a href="http://opensource.org/licenses/category" rel="nofollow">one of just nine licences &#8220;that are popular and widely used or with strong communities&#8221;</a>.</p>
<p>&gt;<i>If you want social action, it needs to be deserved. And to deserve that, you have to cater to the community.</i></p>
<p>Agreed!</p>
<p>&gt;<i>This website and the artwork is nice and it’s obviously a good start, but it doesn’t tell me where to get the code and how to get hacking.</i></p>
<p>Sorry, the particular website which answers these questions is currently in internal beta.  However, as soon as possible, we&#8217;re going to convert it to a public beta.</p>
<p>&gt;<i>Where’s the git repo?</i></p>
<p>We decided in the end to use Mercurial rather than Git (though it was a close-run thing).</p>
<p>// David W.</p>
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